Kevin Stafford 0:02
Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the conversations with coaches podcast. I’m your host, Kevin and I once again have a returning guest someone who’s an absolute delight to talk to you and very thought provoking to talk to you. It’s been a while it’s been it’s been a year somewhere in the vicinity of a year. Since I spoke with Christine Sauer. Let me reacquaint you with Christine. She’s a retired physician and naturopath specializing in helping people to grow their businesses live better and thrive longer by using cutting edge neuroscience through the brain power system, and five dimensional brain health coaching. We’re going to talk about we’re gonna get into the deep end today, I think a little bit even in our very short time together. So Christine, it’s just great to talk to you again. I remembered speaking with you and I had fond memories went back and listened to our old episode. It was like, oh, yeah, I had a lot of I did a lot of googling. After we talked last time, I was like, I had to learn more about the stuff that we were talking about. So it’s really great to have you back.
Christine Sauer 0:54
Thanks, Kevin. It’s always a pleasure to be on your show. I also listened to the last episode and I enjoyed the way you talk. I am looking forward to meeting him again and being of service to all the listeners foreign aid.
Kevin Stafford 1:07
Thank you for saying that. We were talking about right before I hit record about how there’s like a there’s a three three dimensional like a three three legs on the stool part of why I love doing the podcast so much like selfishly I get to talk to people like you. Like I learn a lot I get I get a lot from it, I learned so much, I get a lot to think about like the feel about I’m able to like give something to the coach give like a slightly elevated platform, a little bit of a you know, amplification, something that can spread the good word. And let people see what these kinds of conversations can be like, and whether or not like, you know, coaching is right for them and who might be the right coach for them. It’s I like I like being able to serve, serve all of those purposes. And all of those people, myself included, selfishly speaking. So let me stop talking about me. And let me just talk about some of what you do. Now we’re only really going to scratch the surface. But we’re going to start with your program, train your brain for success. Talk a little bit about that.
Christine Sauer 2:02
No, most people don’t realize that everything you do success in everything you do at work life, in your relationships in parenting starts with an optimized brain. That’s what my mentor Dr. Daniel Amon says in his books, Change Your Brain, Change Your Brain, Change Your Life, it is true. Mental health starts with brain health. It is not enough to talk to a psychologist it can be helpful as a psychologist is good. But you also have to optimize your brain, otherwise, it won’t take and I’m the example because I struggled with mental health issues for over 10 years before then I said to myself, that’s enough. And Adele dove deep into the science. And that’s when I reinvented my life reinvented my business. And I chose to stay unlicensed. Although I could have gone back to being licensed. But in the current environment, I’m glad I’m not. Because I can say to my clients, what I really think is in their best interest.
Kevin Stafford 3:04
So it’s very great distinction to be able to like to be it’s a completely unsurprising to me that you prioritize your ability to serve your clients best over any sort of formalized structured approval licensing, because sometimes it’s honestly, we all ideally would hope that the licensing, you know, and that sort of like industry approval in the industry, certification is something that helps us serve our clients better, but sometimes it really is an obstacle. And I I just wanted to say I really respect and appreciate that decision from you to put your service to your clients first. That’s that’s impressive.
Christine Sauer 3:39
Absolutely. And I also find that it’s more private as a coach because as a licensed provider, when somebody wants to get insured health insurance, life insurance, they always ask, When did you see the doctor? Did you see a psychiatrist etc? Yes. Oops. premiums. I’m not required to disclose it to anybody, if I’m compelled by code of law, but that’s my experience that so I don’t have to tell anybody not not your employee assistance plan. It has advantages when you use your own money to pay it. That’s it. Young Professionals, you don’t want nobody to know if you have issues and affect your job eligibility. You won’t be promoted your boss looks down on your mental health there’s a lot of stigma still attached. It’s a shame I hate it, but it’s a fact.
Kevin Stafford 4:31
Yeah. Speak a little bit more about that actually. Because I feel like that that ability to, to you have to you have you have to have these multiple, multiple purposes you’re trying to serve in life and you’re trying to like grow your career and grow professionally. But there’s so much stigma and so much baggage around mental health that it really it cramped the space in which you have to explore it and develop it and really attend to your needs, whatever they may happen to be. And like talk about how you are you particularly But like coaching in general, but you specifically are just really you’re able to create that space and that safety and that privacy to do that work at any age, but especially early, I feel like that’s a really important light to shine.
Christine Sauer 5:12
Now I see so many young people that start off being put on several psychiatric medications, and it makes emotions flat. They can experience life anymore. I happen sometimes I call it a little derogatory zombie pellets, which is really what many people experience on those trucks that said, don’t do that young kids is better options. At least most of the time. I mean, psychiatric dogs have a very narrow thing. But I was with Dr. David Burns, I love and feeling great. Feeling good. Feeling good together. Excellent box, I can only recommend them Dr. David Burns. And he does form of cognitive therapy called the team therapy. And I’m level one certified. So I’m half a therapist, I could say this, but I love I’d love I was on a zoom call with him on one other participants. But he asked me a question. I said, What do you think of antidepressants. And you know what he said, he said, I’m a psychiatrist for 35 years, I have not prescribed antidepressant for 30 years, I think they are not necessarily endemic the pharmaceutical industry, which is saying he’s old enough, he doesn’t care anymore. Helps experiences line line up with it, because my own brain has become much better, more strategic. After I took myself off all the drugs in a very strategic and slow and measured way. Because they have serious side effects. If you try it yourself, if you’re thinking of going with me to contact me, I’m happy to talk with you about it doesn’t cost a penny to talk with me about things. Anyone that’s different, but then it can talk about that beforehand and reasonable. And the thing is, it’s important that you do this somebody to help you or not just stop them from any of the others. I see. So family doctors, they say Oh, you don’t want to take from here stop them, it’s first thing to do. You’re bound to fail. It’s really so
Kevin Stafford 7:20
it is ridiculous. And it’s so like when you when you explain it like that, it sounds so simple. You’re like, of course, duh, you should be very deliberate and very strategic and very careful when you’re essentially shifting your support structure for your brain from one type of structure to another, whether it’s chemical to different sorts of optimization, like the one that like the kind of you provide. It’s just when you think about it, you’re you’re like, it’s almost like, in my head, I have the image of when people move like old houses, like they take a house and they put it like basically on a truck, and they move it somewhere else, whether fares, preservation, or whatever the purpose might happen to be. And in my head, I have this it’s just this giant careful ordeal, we have to be so careful moving the house off the foundations, laying a new foundation, you know, moving the house from one place to another putting the house back down, making sure it doesn’t break or sag or that I have this in my head is sort of like an evolving analogy. But like you think about when you’re when you’re changing the entire support structure of your brain and how it works. treat that with great, great care, get help guidance professionals who can help you make that transition because it’s it’s massive.
Christine Sauer 8:28
You know, Kevin, I like the comparison with the house, I sometimes say build your house of health and start with a blueprint. And start with a single. And many people go to the store say they go to the health food store, grab a supplement, and then they don’t see a difference and think it should work. Now you have to rebuild or build or renovate your house of health from the ground up if you really want to shiny nice and beautiful, especially when you put it on a different foundation. And chemical pills are not a good foundation. It’s very it’s like probably not quicksand. Onwards after a while.
Kevin Stafford 9:04
Well, speaking of speaking of tools of the trade, you mentioned something that you wanted to talk about specifically today. Talk about your 123 COMM video, I want to I want to hear more about that.
Christine Sauer 9:15
I love that, you know, in the course of my I think I’m now 40 years in healthcare, I’ve learned a thing of tools. And one of them is to really how to de stress turn off anxiety and voice in less than 10 minutes. So I said wow, I have to teach it. So I’m giving it away on my domain domain 123 Dots 123 comm.org It’s an org. And when you go there, you can give me your email and then I show you under video, I drive you right to the video, and you can intent. If you go with the video, don’t do it when you’re driving your 100% Karma afterwards, I promise if not let me know and we’ll do something else. A combination of methods that I learned over the years one of them that I’m very fond of is havening techniques. It is amazing method. Many people know EMDR. EFT the tapping. And I always say it’s EMDR on steroids. It’s so much more effective. It’s another cycle. Physical method. It’s attachment it detach yourself. Well, not in that sense. But in a good sense. You have to stroke yourself, because you had I told you on the video, just go with me and do it in a quiet place. If, if not, well wait, you get the replay of the video, of course. And I’m actually at the current time making a little free course to explain a little bit how it works to help the people out with that.
Kevin Stafford 10:46
Oh, that’s lovely, I love I really do love just the idea of starting with calm, because there’s so much there’s so frequently so much noise and movement and chaos and franticness and stress in life. And sometimes the real work can’t even begin or the work can’t even begin until you’re able to access some calm, some some some steadiness, some, some stillness, that can then allow you to perceive other things that might be happening in your life or hear other noises that might be getting drowned out. And it just feels like such a great, this is just a great place to start. Just like it just is just the kind of volume down. Here’s how and I love that you might I remember I’m quite taken with the name 123 Calm, it almost sort of like appeals to that moving too fast part of my brain, it’s like when you three, let’s get this get through, on. And it’s something about even just saying the word out loud. I know I’m putting a little bit of a tone into it. But I don’t know to me that I respond to that structure where it’s like it’s speaking to my, my chaos, and promising me some stillness, which is which is good. That’s that’s the kind of thing I love.
Christine Sauer 11:53
You know, especially since the pandemic, you notice when you drive your car in traffic, people are so much more irritable, they cut you off. They show you the finger. They spray I do thankfully I don’t hear it. But they do. You can see the lips moving response. It’s hilarious. And he has to watch the video sometimes. It’s fine. And yes, our world is more and more hectic. And actually 15 years ago, they did a study and the human attention span was about 16 seconds. And Dr. Ayman teaches brain health courses I’m on his teaching team to young people to students and our school, the private school. And in this class, it was taped in 2016, I use some of the video content for the class. He says human attention span is eight seconds, which is shorter than that of a goldfish of nine seconds. Now that was 2016. The recent X estimates are three seconds. It’s evolution going the wrong way. Because what you need is calm or boost confidence to be successful at work. If you’re starting with a frazzled brain, and you don’t know you’re jumping from one thing to the other, then you can go to the doctor you get pills for ADHD, they help a little bit but they really don’t make a lasting difference. Because we need something differences. You might might try mindfulness and yes, I’m a big fan of mindfulness. The problem is all those classes in yoga classes they take forever. And I thought how can I help all those stress professionals and I talked to them and at 90% stressed out my son is one of them. You’ve worked as a professional in London, he’s stressed out? How can I help those people? Quickly? And effectively. That’s why I made that video.
Kevin Stafford 13:50
I love it. I’m looking at those at the Zoom clock and we’ve already been chatting for over 20 minutes it makes one of the one of the delights in my major responsibility as a host is like I have so many more questions. So if people have people have half as many questions as I do and want to learn half as much as I want to learn more about you and about what you do, where’s the best place for them to go? I’m sure you have a website. I know you’re pretty active on LinkedIn as well as maybe other social media. So where can the listeners and me go next? Aside from 123 comm.org link will be in the show notes. Where else can people go to find out more to learn more and to begin?
Christine Sauer 14:26
Now the easiest way is just Google my name Dr. Christine Sauer. And then you go to the link that you like best website comes up LinkedIn comes up Chamber of Commerce. Something comes up Google Yeah, Google me.
Kevin Stafford 14:43
Google me. Christine. Once again, thank you so much. I feel like I could keep you for hours and hours and hours. This is like I feel like this is the perfect bite sized, not tease but piece of the pie. And quite frankly the next step listeners, if it’s not already clear, go to 123 comm.org link will be in the show notes. You could type that into Google to it’ll come right up and just take, what is it? 10 minutes. It’s a 10 minute video.
Christine Sauer 15:11
I mean, it’s an app, I
Kevin Stafford 15:12
think 10 and a half minutes, because it’s rounded up to 11. You’ve got, you’ve got 11 minutes to dedicate to this, and you want to give it a shot. So it’s wanting to I just wanted to say that before I let you go, is there anything else you wanted to add? Before we before we close out? Christine?
Christine Sauer 15:26
Thank you very much. Kevin Pham your show. I love those quick sound bites because people just don’t have the attention span anymore.
Kevin Stafford 15:33
That’s kind of got to speak to people where they’re at. And if people only have three seconds, maybe maybe maybe they can, you know, slice off, you know, 15 minutes for us, maybe while they’re doing the dishes. And hopefully we can we can reach them where they’re at and address address what needs to be addressed first so that the bigger work can can begin in earnest.
Christine Sauer 15:53
On last word, oh, curious about something magical. Go to the 123. Concord. org and read the emails that I sent you afterwards because I talk about magic and stories in laws.
Kevin Stafford 16:09
All right. Now that’s a tease. Go watch the videos, sign up to watch it, watch it. And then keep an eye on your inbox for what comes next. That’s beautiful. Okay, I should let you go down. And also I want to share gratitude as well. Thank you so much for being on thanks for talking to me again. Probably, I’m almost certainly gonna reach out to you in like another like three or six months and see if you want to chat again for 15 minutes about whatever else is new. This has been wonderful. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Kevin.
