[00:00:00] Michael Pacheco: All right. Hello, everyone. Welcome once again to another episode of the remarkable coach podcast. As always, I am your host, Michael Pacheco. And today with me, I have Christine Meyer. This is Christine’s encore at the remarkable coach podcast. She was on before in a, in an episode released, I believe in June of 2021.
So we are recording in May. Of 2023. So it’s been almost exactly two years, almost. Christine is a life coach whose mission is to empower, uplift and educate. She believes that everyone can joyfully and playfully live and that no apologies ever are required for that. Her book, keep it simple.
Smarty pants was awarded number one, new release on Amazon in 2020. Christine Meyer. Welcome back to the remarkable
[00:00:46] Christine Meyer: coach. Thank you very much for having me back. It’s always fun to come
[00:00:50] Michael Pacheco: back. Yeah. Thank you. Why don’t you just tell us first of all, if you haven’t had a chance for our listeners and viewers, I strongly recommend you go back and check out that that episode.
Again, it was released in June of 2021. And Christine, for those that have not yet had a chance to listen to our previous episode, why don’t you just tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do in your own words? Bye.
[00:01:11] Christine Meyer: In my own words. I have the best job ever. Of course, I get to work with amazing human beings who are typically leaders, and they range from entrepreneurs to Obama speech writers to philanthropists and investors, and I just get to.
Kind of be in their back pocket and help them dream bigger and get out of their own way. They’ve already obviously accomplished a lot and it’s always fun and great to have someone in your back pocket this way, because you don’t realize always how you’re getting in your own way. So I get to partner with them really and watch them achieve.
All of the more things that they want to achieve in life and they’re incredible human beings and I help them become better leaders as well. Awesome.
[00:02:01] Michael Pacheco: Sweet. That sounds great. Tell us tell us a little bit about what’s new and it’s been about 2 years since you’ve been on the podcast before.
What’s new since we last chatted here?
[00:02:11] Christine Meyer: I’m working on book number two coming out in 2024, at least that’s the plan. Yeah. And been working with more incredible human beings. I am thinking of starting a private podcast for more of a, like a living room feeling of people gathered together.
Gosh, what else? I don’t know. Pandemic has erased my memory a little bit and it’s like I don’t know what happened in the last two or three years.
[00:02:43] Michael Pacheco: I think on a level that we can all relate to that.
[00:02:46] Christine Meyer: Yeah, some of it seems like a blur and certainly on the, on a Personal and business side. Some things I’ve just let go of that seemed important at one point in time in my life.
I just, I can’t think of anything in particular. I can’t give you a particular example, but I’ve just noticed over the course of the last few years. I’ve always done this, but it really emphasized what is important. In the last, with the pandemic happening and stuff. So I’ve just stripped away a lot of things and my book is called keep it simple, smarty pants.
So of course I’ve just even I’ve simplified even more and really honed in on just. Putting the blinders on a little bit in terms of, I’m just going to stay in my lane and do what I do. So that’s not new, but it’s just been emphasized with what’s happened in the last few years. And I think it was a good shift for sure.
Yeah. Yeah. Very good. And I took some time off. I took some extra time off over the last summer. I just decided I was going to pull back a little bit and just re evaluate. Rediscover, renew, refresh, re energize, and just say, is this still something I want to continue doing and how?
[00:04:04] Michael Pacheco: Yeah, I love it.
So tell us about that. Cause I think that’s a super relevant topic to our listeners and our viewers is, struggling to, our listeners and viewers are all high achievers, arguably successful, highly successful people who. Run businesses, they are coaches, they’re consultants, they’re in this, in, in the C suite in companies, finding time to pull back from all that and making time to.
I Hesitate to use the word, the phrase self care cause it’s just been so overused, but that’s what we’re talking about a little bit, or at least, do some retrospection, some introspection at least and consider what has worked well, what’s what hasn’t worked well, what changes I should potentially consider, what, what things I should keep doing, tell us about your.
Let’s call it a journey. Yeah. Your experience last summer when you took that time off what was that like? What did you do? How did you do it?
[00:05:03] Christine Meyer: I’m, I decided I was going to call myself a chief. Puter, Uhhuh. , . ‘ cause I like to puts and I wanted time to, just puts around. So that’s how it looked.
I took on fewer clients and I, and I. I planned for it though, by not taking on clients when they were coming to me. So I just allowed myself to take a break. And does that mean less income? Does that mean, yeah, it does, but I planned for it. So I didn’t just suddenly say I quit. And it was a, it was an intentional shift.
It was not one made that from a place of not feeling good about where I was. It was just more, you know what? We’ve had this downtime and I want to give myself that downtime as well. So it was just a lot of hanging around and going in the pool and looking at my flowers and planting my flowers and not, nothing, no big plans, not let’s go here and feel all the time.
It was just quiet time and just really contemplating my journey to where I am now and whether This is what I want to do when I, as I keep growing up and move forward. So there was just, it didn’t look like anything in particular. It just was chilling out, having no particular place to go and having a more open schedule.
And. And yeah, sure. Self care. I didn’t really think of it that way. I just, it was a, it was an intentional move. It was an intentional retrospection in to retrospection of what has occurred and what I want moving forward. And just making sure that I wasn’t blindly following someone else’s path blindly following what I’ve heard out there.
There’s a lot for us coaches in particular. I’m sure a lot of other people, but mostly coaches for me because I’m in the coaching industry. There’s so much advice out there and there’s so much. Information on how to build your business. I’ve been in business for a long time, how to proceed as a coach and how to and I found that to be getting really noisy and it’s, I think it, it’s a slippery slope can be a slippery slope, a fine line, if you will on.
You, you get so much information, you take in so much information and was I truly evaluating if that was right for me, felt right for me, and was it really what I wanted to be? Moving forward with in the direction. So I just took stock of my values and what is truly important to me. And yeah.
[00:07:44] Michael Pacheco: How important is it for you, for your clients, for leaders, for business leaders, for anybody to to create space for boredom.
And allow yourself to be bored. I think that’s something that, there’s this little device that, that will keep you occupied at the most inopportune times when a little boredom can be of service.
[00:08:07] Christine Meyer: I think boredom is of great service because it makes you desire something.
And so as you allow that boredom or that idle time to settle in, I think that if you don’t make a big deal about being bored and get stuck on being bored, or fill it with things to distract you. It can produce a clear desire and it can or desires and it can produce inspiration to try something to go do something you’ve never done or to think about things that you’ve never thought about.
And I think that space is really important for me anyway. I don’t do well with a very crowded calendar. I like the time to just Really contemplate. Is this something I really want to do? And am I aligned with it? Am I contradicting myself on it? Is this something I’d like to sit? I’d like to, I’d like to work out in the mornings.
I like to just contemplate how I really, what I really think about that instead of. Ingesting so much information and just taking it for as what it’s being delivered as I like to really. Figure it out for myself and say, Hey, do I, does, do I agree with that? Or do I like that idea or what could I do with that idea or things like that?
So I think it’s really important for that inspiration to and to get to know yourself, to become very self aware. So I really like space.
[00:09:39] Michael Pacheco: Now, you might say that you keep it simple, Smarty Pants.
[00:09:43] Christine Meyer: 100 percent I keep it simple, Smarty Pants. Yeah. And, being busy. We, I think we use the word a lot and we can be, we can have a full day, we can have full weeks.
We have kids, we have businesses, we have all of those things. I get that. I travel four hours a day now, taking my daughter to school and coming home and then going back again. I get it. And if we’re constantly filling our lives with stuff where we don’t get to take the time to just really. Connect with ourselves, then I feel like we’re disconnected from the true power that we have.
And then we start looking out there and reacting. So I’ve for me that time to myself that quiet time that downtime that scheduled. blank space on my calendar, if you will, is really important to me to just connect with myself and then proceed out in the world as the best version of myself and less reactive self.
If I don’t have that time, it’s, if I’ve, Notice something earlier in the day. Let’s say that’s gotten my goat someplace and I’m not tending to that. Then I can tend to be out in the world being more reactive like we all do. So I think it’s important to really take that time and just. Work it through.
[00:11:07] Michael Pacheco: Yeah, I think a lot of people, and it’s especially difficult for entrepreneurs and business owners, but a lot of people tend to conflate busyness, being busy with accomplishment, right?
Busyness and accomplishment are two different things.
[00:11:23] Christine Meyer: Or being productive, right? Sure. But if you’re constantly reacting, or if you’re in a state of overwhelm, or a state of. of panic about something in your business and you take action, you fill your day you get busy trying to fix those things.
You’re, all you’re doing is perpetuating what you don’t want to be perpetuating. You’ll just keep bumping into that. So the value of taking the time to consider how am I feeling about this? What am I thinking about this and how am I feeling about that? And then. And then doing something about how you feel and your mindset, your perspective about it is, and taking the time to just give yourself space is way more productive than just throwing darts at the wall and trying to stay busy.
And, we’ve built this sort of It’s a very heroic perspective, if you will, about being busy. Oh good, you’re busy. Yay. Yeah, I’m busy. I’m busy. We wear it like a badge of honor. I’m busy. I’m busy. Yeah. But are you in? Yeah. Are you actually enjoying that? Are you in taking the time to enjoy your kids at home?
Are you taking the time to enjoy your mate at home or the people around you or nature or there’s so many things that, that busy does not compensate for.
[00:12:41] Michael Pacheco: I think you’re, yeah, you’re absolutely right. We’ve glorified the hustle and especially, certainly in, in entrepreneurship circles. And in small business.
[00:12:49] Christine Meyer: And we’ve also glorified the hustle in entrepreneurship and we’ve glorified the overwhelm in entrepreneurship.
We, we just assume that being an entrepreneur comes with being busy and being overwhelmed. Pretty much. And I just I reject that idea. I, you can have it doesn’t mean you won’t be busy. It doesn’t mean you won’t get. Overwhelmed. You will have those moments, but I do not buy into the idea that you have to be.
Entrepreneurship equals any of those things because it doesn’t it’s and that’s why I like that space. It’s about being intentional. It’s about evaluating how you want to move forward, but from more of a feeling place morning, really intentionally rather than blundering and just jumping into my day and take tackling the day.
I don’t do that. That doesn’t work for me. Oh,
[00:13:43] Michael Pacheco: yeah, that makes sense. Tell us about your new book that’s, you’re working on. Yeah,
[00:13:49] Christine Meyer: It’s about relationships and that’s, you’re in a relationship with everything that you think about. So think of that book as a very general approach to relationships.
But a foundational approach to relationships. And of course, it’s going to be under the keep it simple smarty pants trademark for this series, a series of books under that title. So it’s going to be simple. It’s going to be direct and it’s going to be entertaining and there, and. Profound in many ways, but really simple and practical and applicable to life.
So what I’m going to be focusing primarily is that relationship with yourself first and foremost, because as you go out into the world, if you don’t have a good relationship with yourself, it does translate into relationships with others. And so while I, it is a relationship book. I don’t have a po a subtitle for it yet, that’s, That’ll be last minute thing or a middle of the night thing when I wake up in the middle of the night and I was like, that’s it.
But it’s primarily focusing on those foundational pieces. And then it’s you got to learn how to sit up. You have a young daughter. She had to learn how to sit up first before she could learn to walk. She had to, there were many foundational pieces to that. Progression. And so I’m going to be talking about that relationship with yourself first and how, why it’s important, how to cultivate it, how to really solidify that, and then how that translates into relationships with others at work.
We’re not just talking about. personal relationships. We are talking about relationships with anything that you think about, basically. Yeah, it’s coming together and hopefully, like my last book, it was piecey and coming together along the way and then, I got it done in a weekend from those pieces.
It’s just a matter of getting it there. Fleshing it out.
[00:15:44] Michael Pacheco: Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Very good. Very good. And you also had mentioned you’re considering starting a private podcast that’s going to be like a fireside chat kind of thing. This sounds interesting. Tell me about this.
[00:15:55] Christine Meyer: What is this? Yeah. I’m excited about that.
That’s just an idea in the making. So I’m just, I’m building some momentum in my own thought forms around that rather than, putting my foot on the gas pedal and pushing forward before I’m really ready to energetically ready to move forward with that. So the idea is that I’m going to create a private podcast and I’ll have people sign up for it and willingly.
Listen to it versus being out there in the ethers and have a podcast broadcast everywhere. And I want the feeling to be come into my living room. It’s going to be like that idea is that we’re just in this, in my living room here and we’re having this intimate conversation about the things that I coach about the things that I talk about, and it’s going to be short.
It’s going to be, it might be 10 minutes today and it might be. 20 minutes next week. And but it won’t be formal. There will be nothing formal to it. There won’t be any big production music. There won’t be any, it’s just going to be more like you and I having a conversation. It’s going to be me talking, and then I’ll just let it evolve.
However it evolves. Yeah.
[00:17:03] Michael Pacheco: Very cool. Very cool. Are you, is it going to be, is this going to be like monologue style podcast? Are you going to have people on and make it interactive? What is it? What’s your plan?
[00:17:13] Christine Meyer: For now it’s monologue again, keeping it simple, right? And that’s all part of my mantra, right?
That’s all part of my, that’s one of my values is keeping it simple. So for me, starting a private podcast is much simpler than trying to think of all of the other things that. That a really produced podcast requires, and so it’s going to be monologuing about things that I think are valuable because I want to inform and educate, if you will, and really get, I am very deeply immersed in the subject.
of my coaching. And I feel like there are so many things that could be understood in more precise ways and nuances. So I love nuances. I love specifics. I love layers. And so I, I want to be. Engaging with people who like those layers as well, who want more information, who want to learn more and cut out the layers of crap that is that are often associated with.
The understanding of mindset, the understanding of energy, the understanding of connection with yourself and all of those things. Yeah, it’s going to be a monologue and I’m going to take relevant subjects, of course, but break it down and demonstrate how this applies in these situations.
agAin, ideas in the making. I haven’t done anything about it. Talk to myself about it. And. It will take shape and form when I feel like it’s a 100 percent hell yes. And until then, I’ll just keep, I’m going to take pleasure in the idea of it. Yeah. And let that inspire me into the movement forward.
Yeah. I love
[00:18:58] Michael Pacheco: it. I love it. Okay. So book coming out in, in, in 2024, private podcast coming out when momentum is built up at some point in the future where can people go to, to learn more about you, to connect with you online?
[00:19:13] Christine Meyer: ChristineMeyerCoaching. com is my website. I’m on LinkedIn under Christine Meyer Coaching.
I’m on Instagram, Christine Meyer Coaching. I’m very consistent, simple and consistent. All across the board. Yeah,
[00:19:27] Michael Pacheco: that’s good. That’s great. As a marketing agency owner. I love that
[00:19:31] Christine Meyer: find me everywhere. It’s Christine Meyer coaching.
[00:19:34] Michael Pacheco: Yeah. Christine, this has been great. Is there anything else that you would like to chat about that?
We haven’t had an opportunity to talk to touch upon yet?
[00:19:42] Christine Meyer: Oh, gosh, I’m sure I could think of something, but right now I think it was a great conversation and. Okay. Really relevant to just in general to taking the time for yourself and call it self care or just call it re evaluating or call it really being intentional with your choice of movement forward, your choice Of means and ways that you want to create your business that you want to create your life.
I think that I really like that subject about being intentional and deliberate rather than blundering through it. And intentional and deliberate doesn’t mean I’m not fun. I like to play my way through those things, but I, that does not mean that I blunder either. Sure.
[00:20:26] Michael Pacheco: Yeah, sure. For sure.
No, I think that’s great. I, I think of it in my life. I think of it as intentional boredom. Where I just like to disconnect sometimes and go for a walk without the phone, things like that. Einstein, I think was famous for saying, and I’m butchering this quote, but basically essentially, all the best ideas come on walks or in showers or whatever, when you’re
[00:20:47] Christine Meyer: Disconnected from. Yep. Yeah, and I, to your point Your subconscious
[00:20:50] Michael Pacheco: is able to sing a little bit at those times, because it’s not being bombarded with a whole bunch of crap.
[00:20:55] Christine Meyer: And, to quiet your mind and stop thought allows that inspiration to come in.
When you are constantly thinking your thoughts, you, it’s like a crowded plate. You don’t have room to pile any more on. And and then your crowded plate also, it’s like, where are the potatoes and where’s the meat? They’re all covered up a little bit. You can’t distinguish what’s really there.
So I think to your point, taking that walk or meditating or listening to music and intentional boredom, I think is really intentional. Quiet time is really beneficial to allowing yourself to receive those inspirational and just not be so noisy in your mind, because when you get. When you keep blundering through your day, when you stay busy, I think that you miss those opportunities where you’re getting hung up on things you miss those opportunities of understanding how you’re proceeding forward in from what mood and attitude.
So if you slow it down a little bit, you’re more able to discern you have a better ability to. To discern where you’re coming from in those moments.
[00:21:59] Michael Pacheco: I dig it. Christine Meyer. Thank you so much. Christine Meyer, coaching. com. Christine Meyer, coaching. everywhere. Christie has been great catching up.
Thanks for making the time to chat with me today. I appreciate it.
[00:22:10] Christine Meyer: Thank you. It was really great to
[00:22:11] Michael Pacheco: see you again. Awesome. And thank you. Of course, as always to our listeners and viewers, you guys are fantastic. We’ll see you next time. All right. That was awesome. That was great. Yeah. Sweet. I love
[00:22:23] Christine Meyer: that.
Just going off the cuff like that. It’s great. Yeah.
[00:22:26] Michael Pacheco: That’s how I do it. I don’t, yeah. I’ve tried scripting stuff before and it’s not, it feels fake. Yeah, it doesn’t it? What I would like to do with your permission is continue recording and ask you some questions about the podcast and then use it as clips to promote the podcast.
So this is basically making a little trailer for this podcast. Awesome. Cool with that. Yeah, of course. So first question, just in general, how did that go for you?
[00:22:56] Christine Meyer: Awesome. It was great. It was easy. Yeah. Like having a conversation with my friend.
[00:23:02] Michael Pacheco: Love it. What were your favorite topics that we discussed today?
[00:23:07] Christine Meyer: Intentional boredom,
being deliberate about moving through life and taking that space and rejecting the idea of needing to be busy and overwhelmed. Nice.
[00:23:18] Michael Pacheco: If you had one big takeaway from our conversation, what would that be?
[00:23:22] Christine Meyer: I don’t know if I had one big takeaway from our conversation today. There were probably so many little nuggets in there. Give yourself the space. Follow your own
path. Yeah, give yourself the space. That’s great.
[00:23:36] Michael Pacheco: Awesome. And finally, if you would, please tell everyone watching, tell our viewers and listeners, tell them why they should listen or watch this podcast.
[00:23:46] Christine Meyer: Cause it’s awesome. It’s
[00:23:48] Michael Pacheco: if you could start it out, like you should watch this episode of the remarkable coach podcast because, and then go like that.
[00:23:56] Christine Meyer: I want to make sure I’m pointing at something that is really valuable and make it relatable. So you should watch this episode of the remarkable coach podcast because. There were a ton of little golden nuggets dropped here today about making time for yourself and taking intentional time off so that you can follow the inspiration that comes from it.
Awesome.
[00:24:24] Michael Pacheco: Awesome. You want to try that one more time? Try the delivery again?
[00:24:28] Christine Meyer: I don’t, I’m clearly not good at this
[00:24:32] Michael Pacheco: one. It was fine, you just weren’t looking at the camera. Is what I’m Yeah, I
[00:24:35] Christine Meyer: know, because I was thinking, I was trying to, like Which is fine. What am I going to say here?
[00:24:40] Michael Pacheco: Which is fine. You gotta be you.
[00:24:42] Christine Meyer: Yeah usually when I start thinking, back and huh. Wait a minute. I’m not going to look at the camera because I’m thinking.
You should listen to this episode intentional
[00:24:53] Michael Pacheco: So close.
[00:24:54] Christine Meyer: Okay, try again. Take Sure. What is it? Take three. You should listen to this episode of the remarkable coach podcast because we talked about so many little nuggets about taking care of yourself. No, I don’t want to say that. Don’t overthink it! Outtakes! Outtakes!
[00:25:14] Michael Pacheco: Yeah, actually, Lily, if you’re watching, Lily, as you’re editing this, it would be great to pick out some of these outtakes for the promo.
I think that’d be fun. You should totally do that.
[00:25:23] Christine Meyer: What do you think was important? What would you like me to, is there something that you think was important? That’s really, cause for me, it’s I think all of it is important. Yeah. End. I think there’s a different vantage point from your perspective and.
I guess that’s might be why I’m struggling a little bit with this. It’s I think you
[00:25:41] Michael Pacheco: could you could talk a little bit about your experience on the podcast. You could talk about how it felt like chatting with an old friend. You could talk about the on a, in, in, in broad terms, how we, we talked about creating space for yourself to get bored and how that is.
And how that being bored can be of service to yourself, right? That, that can serve you in great ways. And many people, I think, right? In 2023, again, talking about this guy, the phone. That’s my right there.
[00:26:17] Christine Meyer: Put your phone down. Yeah, we could have, I was going to say, we could have a whole other conversation about this thing.
Yeah. Okay.
You should listen to this episode of the remarkable coach podcast, because it was like being with an old friend, having a conversation and about taking some time for intentional boredom and creating space for that. Inspiration to flow through and new ideas to come through and especially in these days when it’s
Clearly I don’t do well on the spot like that. We could have a conversation, but
[00:26:55] Michael Pacheco: that’s right. No worries. I think we’ve got enough stuff here. We can cobble, we can edit some stuff together and throw in a couple outtakes just for funsies.
[00:27:05] Christine Meyer: Yeah. Yeah, that’s the better.
[00:27:07] Michael Pacheco: It’ll be good. Wow. Lily’s awesome at this stuff. So she’ll
[00:27:10] Christine Meyer: crush it. So just as a demonstration for me, when I’m thinking and trying to think, I, that’s what happens when I just let it flow. It’s stuff comes out of my mouth. And I think who’s smart like that. I didn’t know I knew that, it’s funny.
And that’s how, when I’m coaching someone, I’m not thinking sure. It’s just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when I’m asked to say, yeah, when I’m asked to say something like that, now suddenly I get what?
[00:27:37] Michael Pacheco: Yeah. Yeah. You get in the zone, you get in the flow. I know how that goes.
[00:27:41] Christine Meyer: There you go.
All right. It was really awesome to see you again. All the best to you. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:47] Michael Pacheco: Let me know. Let me know when, if the, when the podcast comes out, let me know about that. And then let me know when the book comes out and we can throw links to both of those up on the show notes page too.
[00:27:59] Christine Meyer: Awesome.
Okay. Yeah. I’m just jotting down my ideas now for the podcast on, like satisfaction is the key to having more of what you want, like little things like that. And yeah. Awesome. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Yeah. Thanks for having me on again. It’s always fun. Yeah, you bet. Take care, Christine.
Yeah. All right. Bye.